Olympic Drugs Cheats

[Radio]

Cypriot weightlifter latest to be caught & sent home. Why do they do it ?.

[Pickles]

It's a funny one that as I think I read that he actually qualified whilst representing Greece then swapped sided!

[Jen]

Along with the unnamed Greek competitor also sent home.

Strange how one is named and the other isn't.

[kili1]

It is shameful that top athletes are resorting to using drugs! Somehow it takes much of the glitter off the Olympic Games. Maybe it was better when only true amateurs were allowed to compete.
Competing and having the honour of being selected to represent your country should be sufficient. To actually win a medal shoukd be the icing on the cake...
Or is that attitude too idealistic for this modern and instant gratification age?

Dee

[lewisestwo]

It is all very well to get caught taking drugs, but isn't the list of banned substances getting longer and longer almost each day. This guy may have inadvertently taken something that contained a banned substance, and did not notice it in the small print which is now, of course, printed in about 20 languages on the packets. Hasn't it reached a stage where athletes have to suffer colds and flu and whatever else because everything seems to contain at east one banned substance.
Just a thought.

[Maramike]

This guy may have inadvertently taken something that contained a banned substance, and did not notice it in the small print which is now, of course, printed in about 20 languages on the packets.

May well have been the case when the Olympics was for amateurs. I don't know about Cypriot athletes but certainly with the larger countries their athletes are well paid professionals. They are not left to their own devices but carefully monitored by teams of well versed experts - doctors, nutritionalists, physios etc. who are kept fully up to date on all the current and projected regulations - and paid well to keep on top of the situation so that these 'accidents' do not happen. Most unlikely that individual athletes would ingest a banned substance in ignorance.

[emgee]

The British cyclist who has missed 3 drugs tests should be banned by the British Olympic authority.

Alan

[trevnhil]

She has satisfied the Olympic Authorities...

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/lizzie-armitst ... cs-1574099

Trev..

[Lynsab]

The British cyclist who has missed 3 drugs tests should be banned by the British Olympic authority.

Alan

It was declared void, of course doubt will now always follow her ( as in this case ) but if she had been banned for missing the tests, that's as it should be.... mentioning it doesn't change the fact that a Cypriot and a Greek athlete both got banned yesterday does it?....

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/lizzie-armitst ... cs-1574099

Go Team GB

[Radio]

26 members of Nigeria's Under17 football squad have been sent home on the eve of The Africa Cup of Nations Youth Tournament for being over age !. A former Nigerian FA President is quoted as saying, ' Of course we cheat. It's a fact !'

[emgee]

I hope that Ms Armistead falls off her bike today, for the future of British Cycling.

Don't forget that Farrah missed 3 tests as well, he too, should not be at the Olympics.

Alan

[trevnhil]

Wishing some one a probable injury by falling off a bike, sounds just like you

Trev..

[propforward]

Somebody was asking if the Cypriot Olympic Athletes are paid, the example I know is the Cypriot discus thrower Parellis, last year before the World Champs he spent 40 days in a training camp in Sth Africa, he came 6th in the Champs , this year he spent April in Portugal as well as a further period of time in Sth Africa, I would think the Cypriot Athletic Federation paid for this, he was born in Cyprus and live in Nicosia, so not the usual college student in California. As for drug use, taking athletics for example, steroids were widely used by throwers and other explosive athletic events way back in the late 60's and early 70's and distance runners had special blood transfusions, this was before athletics became openly professional, so this is not something that has surfaced just recently,

[Firefly]

It seems to me that if you know that you have not had the required drug tests, you can expect to be banned, if the rule is that you have these tests, make sure you do ! Simple.

I often wondered why Paula Radcliffe couldn't run a race without 'the call of nature' interfering, strange that.

Jackie

[emgee]

Trev

I don't want her injured, just hopes she falls off her bike so that there can be 3 worthy medalists.

Alan

[coggle123]

Hi Alan,
This lady has been FULLY cleared from any wrong doing, it is clear there were some errors of judgment on her part, but that alone should not condemn her, she is only human & makes mistakes just like the rest of us, "black or white" thinking is never the whole story, it usually falls into the "grey" area inbetween.
The British Authorities have some of the most stringent rules when it comes to the subject of drug taking in sport, so I have no doubt that they would have banned her from taking part if there had been even a hint of anything untoward.
Being the world champion, I don't doubt that there are a few that wish she had been banned, & the toll this has taken on her emotional state must be immeasurable .
I for one wish her well & hopes she wins.

[propforward]

By missing three tests if she had been taking anything it would be out of her system and she would now be clear.

[June]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/disability-sport/37002582

The Paralympic team have been banned.

It's shameful.

They should all have been.

[emgee]

Cycling flop Armitstead claims she was exhausted over the controvesy following her 3 missed drug checks.

A great day for British Cycling.

Alan

[emgee]

Ms Armitstead is returning to the UK to get married soon.

I hope she remembers to turn up.

Alan

[propforward]

Cypriot discus thrower Parellis made the final which takes place today.

[emgee]

Lizzie who?


Alan

[Alan Else]

The Soviet Bloc and the US have cheated for years, they were all professionals and got away with it for years now that it is almost a level playing field the iron curtain countries don't do anywhere near as well. The US has always done it with their athletic scholarships.

[Alan Else]

I do not recall seeing any US teams banned. Where is that fact recorded?

Nobody said the US were banned just that their athletes were given sports scholarships which indirectly made them professionals.

[Lynsab]

the reason people are useing drugs is the pressure to win at all costs.its not really cricket, but hey, it boosted the english medals with so many russians being disqualified

Team GB won more medals than the Russians in 2012, Russians weren't disqualified then.....we are just far better....I see that all Russian Paralympians are now banned....

[emgee]

Lizzie who? Was married yesterday. However, she was late and guests thought .................................she had forgotten all about the wedding.

Alan

[zorbathejock]

the reason people are useing drugs is the pressure to win at all costs.its not really cricket, but hey, it boosted the english medals with so many russians being disqualified

I thought it was Team GB. There was no English team just a British one even though the athletes were from all the UK & NI countries.

[Alan Else]

the reason people are useing drugs is the pressure to win at all costs.its not really cricket, but hey, it boosted the english medals with so many russians being disqualified

Team GB won more medals than the Russians in 2012, Russians weren't disqualified then.....we are just far better....I see that all Russian Paralympians are now banned....

Back when the Iron Curtain was still hanging the iron curtain countries were supreme whereas now they don't have the funds that they had back in the day.
I remember many, many years ago when the Hungarian foot ball team came and ran rings around the England team. Franc Puskas their star player was incredible, he was a Major in the Hungarian army.

[emgee]

Wolverhampton Wanderers played Honved to celebrate the new floodlights at Molineux.

I've got the programme.



Alan

[295Russ]

Just think how good this chap would have been IF he didn't have any breathing difficulties!
He must be very thankful he was allowed to take a banned substance legally.
I find it rather amazing the number of top sports people that suffer from asthma and other breathing problems and have to resort to drugs.

Sir Bradley Wiggins has insisted he was not trying to gain an "unfair advantage" from being allowed to use a banned steroid before major races.
The Olympic cyclist told the BBC's Andrew Marr Show he took the powerful anti-inflammatory drug triamcinolone for allergies and respiratory problems.
Sir Bradley said he sought therapeutic use exemptions (TUEs) to "put himself back on a level playing field".
TUEs allow the use of banned substances if athletes have genuine medical need.
Sir Bradley's TUEs were approved by British authorities and cycling's world governing body, the UCI.
There is no suggestion that either he or Team Sky, his former team, have broken any rules.
'Cure these problems'
Sir Bradley's use of the substance has come under scrutiny following revelations made by computer hackers known as Fancy Bears, last week.
The details were revealed after the group accessed the private medical data of some of the world's leading athletes from the World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada).
Dozens of athletes have been affected and there is no suggestion they have broken anti-doping rules.
But a former team doctor of Sir Bradley told BBC Newsnight on Friday that he was "surprised" he had been prescribed the drug.
The stolen data revealed Sir Bradley was given permission to inject the banned drug triamcinolone, a powerful corticosteroid, just days before three major races.
He took the drug shortly before the 2011 and 2012 editions of the Tour de France and the 2013 Giro d'Italia.
The five-time Olympic champion and 2012 Tour de France winner told BBC One's Andrew Marr Show he had been "a life-long sufferer of asthma".
"I went to my team doctor at the time and we went, in turn, to a specialist to see if there's anything else we could do to cure these problems."
Sir Bradley said doping within cycling was still "an open wound" and said triamcinolone had previously been "abused" by riders.
However, he added: "This was to cure a medical condition. This wasn't about trying to find a way to gain an unfair advantage.
"This was about putting myself back on a level playing-field in order to compete at the highest level."
Breathing difficulties
He said he had been "struggling" with asthma and his breathing before the 2012 Tour de France and decided to "take that medical advice".
"When you win the race three weeks out from the Tour de France, as I did, you're the favourite for the Tour.
"(And) you have the medical team and coaches checking everything's OK - 'Bradley, you're on track here, you're the favourite to win this race, now we need to make sure the next three weeks... is there anything we can help with at the moment?'
"(I say) 'Well, I'm still struggling with this breathing, I know it didn't look like it but is there anything else you can do just to make sure that I don't, this doesn't become an issue into a three-week race at the height of the season?'
"And, in turn, I took that medical advice (to take triamcinolone)."

Full report on http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37462540

[emgee]

Why do cyclists who have Asthma insist on racing 100+ miles a day?

How do they do it?


Alan

[Firefly]

Alan,

Simple, they don't !

Jackie

[emgee]

Oh Bradley.

Lots of unanswered questions......................................

Alan

[Jim]

This has always gone on especially in cycling and athletics, no idea if Bradley is guilty of anything untowards, do not assume guilt please, he says it was for a medical condition so give him chance to prove any guilt or innocents.

[emgee]

Jim

In his book he said that he NEVER took injections, today, from information recently published, that information is clearly untrue.


Alan

[jimgward]

He als stated very clearly in his book, that he had no illnesses at all (at the time he has subsequently claimed to have asthma)

It is increasingly clear that virtually all Tour de France cyclists are on Something...

[emgee]

Perhaps a side-effect of NOT taking injections is amnesia.

Alan

[Firefly]

One might think that instead of giving 'Wiggy' (a title used in a local paper) injections, he/she might have suggested that he give up cycling. Something surely which could only aggravate the condition to a dangerous level ?

Jackie

[emgee]

If this is the level that Great Britain has to stoop to to win medals, then I'd rather we did not win them.

Shame on you "wiggy".

Alan